Recordings of Lori Daybell shortly after her husband's death played at her trial

Cassandra Ynclan, with the Chandler, Arizona, police department, is questioned Monday by Lori Daybell about interviews she had with Daybell hours after Daybell's husband's death.

Cassandra Ynclan, with the Chandler, Arizona, police department, is questioned Monday by Lori Daybell about interviews she had with Daybell hours after Daybell's husband's death. (Screenshot)


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KEY TAKEAWAYS
  • Investigators testified on Monday in the jury trial for Lori Vallow Daybell, who is charged with conspiring to murder her husband.
  • Recordings of Lori Daybell's interview with police and calls with life insurance company shortly after Charles Vallow's death were played for the jury.
  • Prosecutors anticipate finishing calling their witnesses this week.

PHOENIX — Investigators testified Monday about the investigation into Charles Vallow's death, covering his autopsy, gun identification, Social Security and life insurance benefits, and the first police interview with Lori Vallow Daybell.

Daybell is charged with conspiring to kill Vallow, her former husband. Prosecutor Treena Kay said she expects to finish presenting her case on Thursday, meaning Daybell, who is representing herself, will likely begin presenting her case in one week.

On Monday — the beginning of the second week of her jury trial — Derek Baumgarner, of the Maricopa County Medical Examiner's Office, said injuries to Vallow's knees could have been caused by falling after he was shot, as the injury to his knees occurred close to his time of death. He said there was not a head wound indicating he fell back after being shot. After being shot once in the heart, Baumgarner said Vallow could have lived for a few seconds and up to about two minutes before he died.

A second shot left a "shored" wound, showing the bullet hit a hard surface when exiting — meaning there could have been a floor directly behind him, matching detectives' claims that another shot hit Vallow while he was on the floor.

Daybell asked if the shored effect would come from a bamboo shirt, but Baumgarner said he has seen it happen with a belt but not fabric. He also said the fact that it was present with just one of the wounds with the effect makes it unlikely it was caused by the shirt.

Mark Saari, a special agent with the Office of the Inspector General, said Lori Daybell and her son Joshua "JJ" Vallow were approved for almost $4,000 in Social Security benefits after Vallow's death as a survivor and mother-child care benefit, in addition to the $1,859 her daughter, Tylee Ryan, was already receiving.

He said the benefits for Daybell being the mother of a surviving child should have ended when she married Chad Daybell, but she did not give notification of her marriage. Saari did not make any mention of the benefits also not continuing after the deaths of JJ and Tylee — who were both killed before Lori Daybell remarried.

Lori Daybell was found guilty in Idaho of murdering 7-year-old JJ and 16-year-old Tylee, along with conspiring to murder them and Chad Daybell's then-wife Tammy Daybell.

Cassandra Ynclan, an officer with the Chandler Police Department, testified about driving Lori Daybell and Tylee to the police office for interviews, and multiple clips from those interviews were played for the jurors.

She said Daybell was "not real emotional; she was pretty calm. Didn't seem overly affected" when they went to let her know about her husband's death — and she unexpectedly said she knew he had died. During the 20-minute drive to the police station, Ynclan said they talked about Tylee's school, but she said Daybell was chatting and did not seem stressed or emotional.

In the interview, Daybell said Vallow was sending her threats "all the time," but she did not answer directly when asked what kind of threats.

"He's always mad at me, and he doesn't want a divorce, but I don't like him … that's just how it is," she said in the interview.

Ynclan also said Daybell talked about how the argument that morning started — she wouldn't give Vallow back his phone. She said he had been texting her brother Adam Cox, who came into town at the same time, which she said was weird.

After Tylee and Alex Cox, Daybell's other brother who was staying at her house, came into the main areas of the home, Daybell said Vallow took a baseball bat Tylee had, and Tylee ended up on the floor. Daybell said she then told Tylee then told to go outside with JJ. Daybell said she was in the kitchen when Alex Cox pulled out a gun.

"I didn't see the shot; I heard it, and then I came back around and I saw that he (Vallow) was on the ground," Daybell said. After that, Daybell told Ynclan, "I just left."

Despite having at least two phones on her, Ynclan said Daybell did not call 911.

The police officer said she did not ask why Daybell didn't just give Vallow back his phone. She said police later got the phone from Daybell and Tylee, who had it in the car they had been driving.

Robin Smith Scott, who answered the phone at Banner Life Insurance when Daybell called about Vallow's policy, testified that Vallow had changed the beneficiary to his sister. Two phone calls were played, one from July 15, 2019, in which Daybell said she was the beneficiary of the policy and that her husband was shot — but it was not a homicide, "it was an accident."

On July 18, 2019, Scott talked to Daybell again after an email notified her that the beneficiary had changed and was not her. He said he told Daybell he could not say who the new beneficiary or beneficiaries were. Daybell said she was "completely surprised" about the change, talking about how she and Vallow had adopted a son together with autism.

"I don't know what he (Vallow) was doing since we have five kids, and we've been married for 15 years," Daybell said.

Although the couple did have five children, counting those from previous marriages, they only had one child together and three of their other children were adults.

Thursday's testimony:

The Key Takeaways for this article were generated with the assistance of large language models and reviewed by our editorial team. The article, itself, is solely human-written.

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Emily Ashcraft is a reporter for KSL.com. She covers issues in state courts, health and religion. In her spare time, Emily enjoys crafting, cycling and raising chickens.
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